Join me for my interview with Ed Wojcicki, Executive Director, Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police. Ed and I talked about the counter-intuitive strategy of running toward difficult conversations rather than away from them, a concept his association has embraced in the face of the “Black Lives Matter” movement. Instead of refusing to talk, the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police has reached out to organizations such as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives. Ed shares what’s resulted—including the valuable concept of developing shared principles.